Luke McInnes speaks with Rick Welch fresh after his experience with Hurricane Helene and the profound impact on his life and community. They explore themes of love, faith, suffering, and the importance of human connection in times of crisis. Rick shares his journey from apathy to a deeper understanding of faith, the struggles he faced with doubt, and the lessons learned from experiencing suffering firsthand. The discussion also touches on theological reflections regarding the nature of goodness and evil, emphasizing the complexity of human experience and the necessity of community support. Rick discusses the inherent goodness of mankind, the complexities of faith, and the impact of personal experiences on relationships. He reflects on his own journey through divorce, the lessons learned about love and grace, and the importance of navigating disagreements with compassion. The discussion also touches on the intersection of politics and faith, emphasizing the need for love and understanding in a divided world. Rick and Luke explore the profound themes of discipleship, pacifism, and the importance of listening in conversations about faith. They discuss the cost of following Christ, the balance between protection and pacifism, and the necessity of understanding differing viewpoints. The dialogue also touches on the role of preterism in shaping their faith and the importance of practicing what one preaches in everyday life. Throughout, they emphasize love, respect, and the transformative power of genuine conversation.