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ABA Business Leaders

ABA Business Leaders

By: Stephen Smith
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Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business.

Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about supervision, billing, hiring, training, compliance, and more. Our goal? To help you build an ABA practice that serves clients ethically and effectively—while supporting your team and growing your business with purpose.

🔗 Learn more about our courses, handbooks, and consulting services at www.3piesquared.com.

3 Pie Squared 2023
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Episodes
  • AI Meets ABA: The Future of Behavior Analysis with Adam Ventura
    Jul 17 2025

    🎙 AI Meets ABA: The Future of Behavior Analysis with Adam Ventura

    In this forward-thinking episode, April and Stephen sit down with Adam Ventura, to explore the rapidly evolving intersection between artificial intelligence and applied behavior analysis (ABA). Adam Ventura, MS, BCBA, is a leader in the integration of artificial intelligence and behavior science. He is the Founder and CEO of Intraverbal AI, a company dedicated to transforming applied behavior analysis (ABA) through AI-powered tools that support ethical decision-making, supervision, and clinical efficiency. From concerns about data security to philosophical shifts in how we define "expertise," this conversation is packed with thoughtful insight for anyone navigating the future of ABA.

    Together, they dig into the risks, possibilities, and ethics of integrating AI into clinical workflows—and what this tech revolution could mean for RBTs, BCBAs, and most importantly, clients.

    🔍 Inside the Episode: 🧠 Stephen voices concerns about over-reliance on AI: What happens to professional judgment when we let machines make decisions?

    📚 Adam compares ABA to education: We’re moving from knowing the right answers to learning how to ask the right questions.

    🔐 A frank discussion on HIPAA, data privacy, and why clinicians need safe AI systems

    👏 April praises the field: ABA leaders are having grown-up conversations about AI—and it’s brilliant to see.

    🚫 Adam calls out the negative reinforcement embedded in session notes: We should remove the punishment contingencies around data collection and admin work.

    🔮 A look ahead: Adam shares his vision for AI in ABA, and how it could streamline services without sacrificing ethics or outcomes

    💡 Whether you're excited about AI or skeptical of it, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you with a clearer picture of where the field is headed.

    📌 Resources Mentioned:

    ✅ Intraverbal AI – Explore Adam's company and tools designed to support ABA professionals

    ✅ Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment

    ✅ ABA Billing Tips

    ✅ Book a Free Consult with Stephen

    ✅ ABA Start-Up Checklist

    🎧 Listen in and reimagine the future of ABA—with both humans and machines in mind.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Finding Your Why with ‘ABA on Tap’
    Jul 10 2025

    🎙 ABA Business Leaders Podcast: Finding Your Why with ‘ABA on Tap’

    In this special crossover episode, April and Stephen team up with Mike and Dan of the ABA On Tap podcast for a candid conversation about the often-unspoken challenges of ABA business ownership. Together, they explore what it really takes to start and grow a sustainable practice, and the personal and professional costs when your foundation isn’t strong.

    From the importance of having a clear “why,” to why some BCBAs shouldn’t be business owners, this episode is packed with straight talk, field-tested advice, and a few laughs. You’ll also hear why neglecting your RBTs and obsessing over billables can erode your mission faster than you think.

    Inside the episode:

    💡 Why your “why” matters more than your business plan

    🛑 The real reasons many ABA start-ups struggle—or fail

    🎯 How to build a people-first company without sacrificing growth

    💬 Why undervaluing your RBTs is a fast track to burnout and turnover

    ⚠️ The trap of focusing only on billables—and what it’s really costing you

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    🔗 Resources:Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment Know where your practice stands—and what you need to fix https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Protect your revenue with smarter billing strategies https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    Book a Free Consult with Stephen Unfiltered, practical advice for ABA business owners https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • 🎙 Looking After Your RBTs, Part 2: Knowing Your Worth
    Jul 3 2025

    🎙 Looking After Your RBTs, Part 2: Knowing Your Worth With Special Guests: Chris, Liz, and Rebecca from AByay!

    In Part 2 of this raw and real conversation, April and Stephen continue their deep dive with the incredible team at AByay!—Chris, Liz, and Rebecca—unpacking the realities of working as an RBT and what meaningful support looks like.

    This episode answers hard questions:

    👉 When is it time to leave your ABA company?

    👉 What do RBTs truly want and need from their workplaces?

    👉 Why are so many technicians burning out—and how can we stop it?

    The guests share powerful stories, practical systems, and a few truths bombs every BCBA and ABA business owner needs to hear.

    🔍 Inside the Episode:

    🛑 “Is it time to move on?” Drawing the line when your ABA workplace isn’t serving you anymore

    💬 What techs really want in the field—and how we can truly support them

    🔥 The real reasons RBTs are burning out (and why these issues aren’t just about workload)

    🔧 Concrete examples of how AByay! builds a culture of communication and collaboration

    📣Keeping RBTs informed: Why transparency is everything on the tech side

    💥 Chris’ mic-drop moment: “We know our worth. Our mission is to provide the highest quality services that we can.”

    💸 Stephen breaks it down: It costs over $7K to train a tech. Protecting that investment means building workplaces where they want to stay

    Whether you’re an RBT navigating your career or a leader trying to build a team that thrives, this episode is a must-listen.

    📌 Resources Mentioned:

    ✅ Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment

    ✅ ABA Billing Tips

    ✅ Book a Free Consult with Stephen

    ✅ ABA Start-Up Checklist

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    MarginKeepers isn’t just a vendor—they’re a financial partner for ABA providers who want to grow smarter and stay compliant.

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    39 mins
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