In this debate, Rand Fishkin and Leah Tharin get deep into where AI is headed and how teams can use it today, how SEO has evolved and changed in 2024, when to hire freelancers vs. agencies vs. internal hires and how owned assets like email can be best leveraged.

Video version available on the ActiveCampaign Youtube Channel!

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:24 AI Hype vs. Reality
10:05 SEO in 2024 and how companies are adapting
22:21 Hiring: In-House vs. Agency vs. Freelancer
34:39 Email newsletters and owned assets

In this episode of Angles and Insight, we have on two iconic software leaders, Jason Lemkin of SaaStr and Wade Foster of Zapier.

They discuss their differing experiences on issues like...

1. Does remote work hurt productivity?

2. What marketing channels are winning in 2024?

3. Should you develop owned assets or lean into "walled gardens"?

4. What is AI hype vs. AI reality? How fast will changes occur?

5. What are some leading AI-first brands?

It's time to break the echo chambers.

Tune in.