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Off the Record with Brian Murphy

Off the Record with Brian Murphy

By: Brian Murphy
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The only show where today’s top mid-revenue cycle leaders share the personal stories, struggles, and successes that you won’t hear on the big stage—but made them who they are today. Join host Brian Murphy as he interviews leaders and interesting personalities from HIM/coding, clinical documentation integrity (CDI), case management, and related healthcare fields about their origins, current challenges and successes, and lessons that you can apply to grow your own career.Brian Murphy Career Success Economics
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  • Code Red: Aligning Risk Adjustment with CMS’s New Audit Mandate
    Jul 9 2025

    For this week’s episode I’m bringing you something a little different, but of such importance that I had to share it with my Off the Record audience: The massive audit expansion of Medicare Advantage announced by CMS.

    In case you missed it, CMS in May rocked the mid-revenue cycle industry with the unveiling of a startling mandate. It will hire 2000 medical coders, beef up its audit technology, and expand its current limited auditing scope from 60 Medicare Advantage Plans to some 550 plans nationwide in an attempt to check widespread allegations of HCC upcoding.

    My colleague Jason Jobes has been closely following the news and presented this topic in June—the most attended webinar Norwood has ever hosted. This is a replay of that very well-received show. It covers:

    • The evolving risk adjustment landscape and the rise of Medicare Advantage

    • CMS broad and bold audit scope and strategy

    • Best practice techniques to survive in risk adjustment and avoid potential risks

    Jason refers to several slides during the presentation, which you don’t necessarily need, but if you’d like to follow along or see the exact references and data we’ve posted them to the Norwood website with a link in the show notes.

    Enjoy the show!

    Show notes and resources

    • View the webinar slides here (free; requires registration)

    • Read the full CMS audit announcement.

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Anybody Listening? Ambient AI and the Future of Documentation with Dr. David Canes
    Jun 25 2025

    In 1990 the heavy metal band Queensryche asked its listeners, “Is there anybody listening?”, a lament for not being heard in a world of overstimulation, noise and artificially.

    In healthcare in 2025, the answer is yes: someone is listening. But the listener just might be a machine.

    Ambient AI is one of the most promising applications of the recent AI wave, in my opinion anyway and possibly that of my guest, Dr. David Canes. Dr. Canes is a Boston-area urologist, owner of WellPrept, and a self-described tech enthusiast.

    Recently David put out the YouTube video 11 Ways to Use AI In Your Practice Right Now, which I link to in the show notes. But he’s also the author of “Why AI scribes are changing medicine and the risks you must know.” I’d describe him as an early adopter and enthusiast but with his eyes open to potential shortcomings.

    We cover the pros and cons of ambient AI and other forms of AI, and how it is impacting documentation, coding, and the revenue cycle, on this episode of Off the Record. We discuss:

    • David’s path into medicine and ultimately urology

    • Why he chose to adopt a positive mindset in the use of new technologies rather than fear or resistance

    • Ambient AI: How it operates and what a patient encounter looks like using this tech, start to finish

    • Positive impacts on provider burnout, charting, E/M professional billing, and CPT

    • Cons of the new tech, including hallucinated answers and inaccurate summaries

    • Use of generative AI large language models in patient diagnosis

    Show notes

    • Why AI scribes are changing medicine and the hidden risks you must know: https://kevinmd.com/2025/02/why-ai-scribes-are-changing-medicine-and-the-hidden-risks-you-must-know.html
    • 11 Ways to Use AI in Your Practice Right Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJLqIU2nbzc
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    42 mins
  • Rising from ruin and talking telehealth, SDOH with Keisha Wilson
    Jun 11 2025

    Regular listeners of Off the Record will recall Keisha Wilson, whom I hosted on the program in June 2024 to talk about telehealth as well as her story of entrepreneurship. She was a bright light and a great guest, so I asked her to return to the show a couple months ago.

    Keisha accepted, and is here today, but it’s a near miracle.

    Eight months ago Keisha suffered an unimaginable tragedy, the loss of her home following a gas explosion and subsequent fire at a neighbor’s home. This included the loss of essentially all but a small handful of her worldly possessions.

    Somehow she’s kept her business afloat and managed to stay on top of the many changes in telehealth, SDOH, and more, and even present on these topics at the recent AAPC Healthcon. It felt a bit odd to pivot to these topics but you’d be hard-pressed to find someone more in the know and ready to educate about telehealth and medical coding than Keisha.

    Pretty inspiring stuff, and we get into all of it on the program. We discuss:

    • The house fire: How it happened, fallout, and dramatic life impacts on Keisha and her mother

    • Keisha’s personal experience with social determinants of health (SDOH) including housing instability and food insecurity after the catastrophic loss

    • Finding new levels of resiliency and using the experience to fuel her AAPC presentation

    • Congress’ extension of telehealth flexibilities through Sept. 30, 2025: What they are, what it means

    • How healthcare organizations should be leveraging telehealth in coding and mid-revenue cycle practice

    • Telehealth as a tool to address and improve SDOH (medication adherence, transportation and patient scheduling)

    • Impact on billing—did you know that moderate medical decision making can be met due to diagnosis or treatment significantly limited by SDOH?

    • What’s next for Keisha including the search for a new permanent home—and of course her selection for the Off the Record Spotify playlist.

    Show notes

    • News coverage of the explosion: https://abc7ny.com/post/crews-responding-explosion-basement-residence-brooklyn-injuries-reported/15245371/
    • Keisha’s telehealth e-guide available for purchase (website includes free downloadable resources as well): h⁠ttps://kwadvancedconsulting.com/e-guides/⁠
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    49 mins
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