The Education Gadfly Show

By: Thomas B. Fordham Institute
  • Summary

  • For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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Episodes
  • #968: Are school inspections the accountability tool we’ve overlooked? with Erik Robelen
    May 7 2025

    #968: Are school inspections the accountability tool we’ve overlooked? with Erik Robelen

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, former Education Week reporter Erik Robelen joins Mike and David to discuss school inspections—what they are, how they might fit into accountability systems, and who’s actually using them in U.S. schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber highlights a study on how AI tools can help middle school math teachers personalize their lessons.

    Recommended content:

    • Erik Robelen, “The Full Measure of a School,” Education Next (Spring 2025).
    • Erik Robelen, “England’s School Inspections Get a Makeover,” Education Next (Spring 2025).
    • Maryland State Department of Education, Blueprint for Maryland’s Future: Expert Review Team
    • Colorado Department of Education, State Review Panel: School Review Protocol, SchoolWorks LLC (2024).
    • Massachusetts Department of Elementary and Secondary Education, Charter School Site Visit Protocol, (2024)
    • Rizwaan Malik, Dorna Abdi, Rose E. Wang, and Dorottya Demszky, Scaffolding Middle-School Mathematics Curricula With Large Language Models, EdWorking Papers (April 2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    35 mins
  • #967: Mississippi’s secret? Twenty years of persistence and progress, with Rachel Canter
    Apr 30 2025

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Rachel Canter, the founding executive director of Mississippi First and the new director of education policy at the Progressive Policy Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss what really fueled Mississippi’s dramatic gains in student achievement. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a new study examining the impact of Ohio’s EdChoice voucher program on college enrollment and graduation rates.

    Recommended content:

    • Rachel Canter, The Truth About Mississippi’s NAEP Gains, Mississippi First (July 5, 2023)
    • Emily Freitag, “A bold state move to improve reading,” Thomas B. Fordham Institute (February 20, 2025).
    • Aaron Churchill, “Ohio’s EdChoice scholarship program improved college outcomes,” Thomas B. Fordham Institute (April 25, 2025).
    • Matthew Chingos, David Figlio and Krzysztof Karbownik, The Effects of Ohio’s EdChoice Voucher Program on College Enrollment and Graduation, Urban Institute (2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    39 mins
  • #966: Is calculus king? Rethinking math pathways, with Matt Giani
    Apr 23 2025

    On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Matt Giani, professor and researcher at the University of Texas at Austin, joins Mike and David to discuss whether there’s a one-size-fits-all math pathway for students, as explored in Calculus or Statistics: Does It Matter?—a new study he coauthored for the Thomas B. Fordham Institute. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study that examines whether Indiana’s statewide private school voucher program has had any competitive effects on public school student outcomes.

    Recommended content:

    • Matt Giani, Franchesca Lyra, and Adam Tyner. Calculus or Statistics: Does it Matter?, Thomas B. Fordham Institute (April 2025).
    • Coming Soon: Heena Kuwayama and Adam Tyner. Advanced Math Pathways in New England, Thomas B. Fordham Institute (April 2025).
    • The National Working Group on Advanced Education, Building a Wider, More Diverse Pipeline of Advanced Learners, Thomas B. Fordham Institute (June, 2023).
    • Anna J. Egalite and Andrew D. Catt, Effects of the Indiana Choice Scholarship Program on Public School Students’ Achievement and Graduation Rates, Sage Journals (2025)

    Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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    35 mins

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