The Pod of Gold

By: ABC Refinery
  • Summary

  • Hosts Nick Frappell and Shae Russell interview members of the ABC Refinery team and industry professionals to better understand today’s investing landscape for precious metals. ABC Refinery is Australasia’s pre-eminent independent precious metal assayer, refiner and mint. ABC Refinery is the refining division of Pallion, Australasia’s largest independent precious metal services group of companies.
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Episodes
  • Gold Above $3,000: What’s Driving the Rally & Where to Next?
    Apr 15 2025

    In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, unpacks the powerful forces pushing gold above USD $3,000 per ounce — and whether it has further to go.

    Recorded on Monday, April 14, this episode dives deep into the drivers of the current gold rally

    Plus, don’t miss Nick’s sharp commentary on America’s evolving economic policy and its ripple effects across precious metals markets.

    PODCAST INFO:

    ABC Refinery website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Nick Frappell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/nick_frappell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Shae Russell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/shaearussell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Subscribe to Nick’s monthly report for deep technical & macro insights.

    OUTLINE:

    Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.

    Timestamps:

    • (0:00) – Introduction
    • (1:30) – The role of tariffs, inflation expectations, and market volatility
    • (3:21) – The fall of the USD and rising bond yields
    • (6:35) – Managed money positioning
    • (11:13) – Short-term price targets for gold, including resistance levels
    • (13:47) – Fed Chair Powell’s comments downplaying inflation concerns
    • (16:47) – Key takeaways
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    20 mins
  • Analysing the Fed's Meeting, Gold's Rally Above $3,000, and Managed Money Moves
    Mar 21 2025

    In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, analyses the Fed's statements after their March meeting and the factors driving the recent surge in gold prices.

    Recorded on Thursday 20th March, Frappell examines how far above $3,000 per ounce gold can go.

    Frappell’s analysis delves into what managed money positioning reveals about the current gold rally, exploring the role of short covering and gold ETF flows. He also touches upon the silver market and the significant buying activity observed.

    The episode further covers technical analysis using the Ichimoku Cloud, highlighting the positive trend for gold.

    Frappell also discusses short-term gold price targets based on point and figure analysis. The conversation also touches on Fed Chair Powell's recent comments regarding inflation expectations and tariffs . Finally, the episode briefly addresses market pricing of the Fed's future interest rate expectations.

    PODCAST INFO:

    ABC Refinery website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Nick Frappell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/nick_frappell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Shae Russell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/shaearussell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    OUTLINE:

    Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.

    Timestamps:

      • (0:00) – Introduction
      • (0:38) – What's driving the current gold rally?
      • (1:11) – Inflation expectations and Powell's comments
      • (3:38) – Managed money positioning in gold
      • (4:50) – Managed money positioning and ETF activity in silver
      • (6:03) – Technical analysis: The Ichimoku Cloud for gold
      • (7:42) – Gold price targets (short-term)
      • (9:26) – The Fed's stance and market expectations for rate cuts

    • Tune in to hear expert perspectives on the outlook for gold, the significance of managed money positioning, and the implications of the Fed's recent communication....

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    12 mins
  • Gold's Defensive Actions: Managed Money, and the Yellow Metal's Rally.
    Mar 2 2025

    In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, analyses the factors influencing gold markets, recorded on Friday 28th February.

    Frappell’s analysis examines what managed money reveals about gold; looks at how much longer gold's rally might last; and discusses the international markets, covering the US Gold Reserve Revaluation and China’s property sector.

    This episode also covers: gold’s technical targets and managed money positioning to the RBA's recent rate cut; the Fed's potential slower pace of rate cutting through 2025; and how these policies may affect gold markets.

    PODCAST INFO:

    ABC Refinery website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Nick Frappell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/nick_frappell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Shae Russell: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/shaearussell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    OUTLINE:

    Here are the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players, you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.

    Timestamps:

      • (0:00) – Introduction
      • (0:35) – Gold's wild ride through uncertainty
      • (3:05) – Chinese regulators allowing Chinese insurance companies to purchase gold
      • (4:55) – United States and their gold reserves
      • (9:05) – What managed money tells us on gold positioning
      • (11:17) – Gold trends through the Ichimoku Cloud
      • (13:53) – Gold price targets
      • (17:18) – RBA's interest rate cuts and their impact
      • (18:24) – The Fed's potential slower pace of rate cutting through 2025
      • (20:18) – The Japanese Yen
      • (21:39) – China's approach to stabilising its property sector


      Tune in to hear expert perspectives on the short-term and long-term outlook for gold....

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    25 mins

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