before we break up again. with Alfie Brown and Jessie Cave

By: Alfie Brown and Jessie Cave
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  • Alfie Brown (disgraced comedian) and Jessie Cave (Trollied, Sky One) are a couple and this is their podcast. Both experts in self-excavation and unvarnished conversation, this podcast is an exercise in trying to get to the route of something, however uncomfortable it might be.
    Copyright 2025 Alfie Brown and Jessie Cave
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  • The actors way, and an OnlyFans update. BWBUA #12
    Apr 28 2025

    Well. Here we all are. We're back with a stunningly upbeat episode this week, possibly because Liverpool are champions. Either way, enjoy. Let us know what you think.

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    43 mins
  • Pottercon Germany, homeschooling and a Giant Schnauzer. BWBUA #11
    Apr 22 2025

    Jessie is back from Germany and is deeply apologetic about the episode being a day late. What happens at a Pottercon? That question is answered before the conversation lurches forward into an easter A&E trip, the Minecraft movie and Jessie's plans for the family.

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    59 mins
  • Dragons' Den, Charlotte Church, Adolescence and More. BWBUA #10
    Apr 14 2025

    It's a bumper, jam packed and full to the brim episode of BWBUA this week. Alfie Brown and Jessie Cave bring you another instalment of this avant-garde cult hit podcast.

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    56 mins

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I have to stop listening

I've been such a big fan listening to every episode, but just don't feel aligned in the way you're both talking about Alfie's "cancellation". you both continuously distance yourself from the impacts and implications of Alfie's racism. it doesn't feel that either of you have done deep work understanding your own fragility, whiteness or how you've absorbed systematic racism. instead you want to focus on others who used the same language or jokes, and justify Alfie as being "really great", which isn't necessary.

I have really enjoyed listening until now, but as someone working in racial justice, you both appear to be incredibly self absorbed and focussed in centering yourselves.

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