People follow people, not disembodied principles: The importance of leadership and why we need entrepreneurial leaders. In this episode Steve’s guest and expert witness is Derrick Evans, aka Mr. Motivator. In part one Steve sets out his ninth principle, in part two Derrick responds.

“This is my conversation with my guest and expert witness Derrek Evans MBE better known as Mr. Motivator, fitness instructor, keynote speaker and TV personality. We talk together about Principle 9: People follow people, not disembodied principles. I just rejoiced in our conversation because I've known Derek for thirty to forty years, we worked together on TV and I've just seen him put this principle into action. In fact, even this very morning I did a workout with Derrek where he's joined now by crowds of people. People follow people, not disembodied principles. If anyone knows about how to do that, it is Derrek”

– Steve Chalke

About Derrick Evans

An icon of British TV, Derrick Evans is best-known as Mr Motivator, a fitness instructor who rose to fame on GMTV in the 1990s. His highly coloured outfits and energetic routines made him hugely popular as he used his platform to encourage viewers to get fit. More than 25 years since he first appeared on British TV, Mr Motivator remains an icon – regularly running public health campaigns for causes like the British Heart Foundation and returning to the nation’s TV screens during the Covid-19 pandemic to help people keep fit and healthy during lockdowns. He was awarded an MBE for services to health and fitness in 2020.

About this podcast series

This podcast series, and the accompanying book by Steve Chalke sets out ten tried and tested practical principles for ‘how’ to develop joined up, cost effective, community empowering work, gleaned from the hard-won experience that sit at the heart of the mission of Oasis over the last four decades.

Steve talks to 13 expert witnesses who help him bring his book to life with their own thoughts and lived experiences.

We believe it’s time for a radical reset. It's time for A Manifesto for Hope!

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